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Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition"). The final instalment made its debut in Japan on March 8, 2021.

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Postby Reichu » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:35 am

Sailor Star Dust wrote:They're not gonna include the on-screen text?!

Uh, where does it say that?

Even better than a dark version of "Misato", how about a dark version of "Asuka Strikes!" :twisted: (Now THAT'D be weird!)

German death metal.

A sudden thought just dawned on me: There's gonna be one movie in the middle of the story, right??

That was a bad translation for "second part" (i.e., Rebuild 2).

Also, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that article said none of those NPC episodes (21'-24') "new" scenes' will be put into the movies

Check your sources before you post stuff that can take on a life as substanceless rumor.

Though there is always a possiblity all the films or one of the films could feature brand new characters, I kinda doubt it would be nothing but that. The film IS kinda all about Shinji-kun and the others, y'know.

New characters and locations have been heavily eluded to.
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Postby cat42 » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:09 am

Reichu wrote:New characters and locations have been heavily eluded to.


I'm telling you, they really should throw in the Characters from Nadia and Gunbuster. Comedy will ensue!

Hell, throw in Haruko while we're at it.
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Postby Millions Livio » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:29 am

My take on the OSTs is they had too many variants of the same songs. I loved almost all of the music, but it did get rather repetitive after awhile. While I love Fly Me To The Moon, there was no reason at all for teen to fifteen versions of the same song on each OST. The End Of Evangelion soundtrack was wonderful. Personally if they were going to do variants of a song, I wish they would have done one or two different versions of The Passage of Emptiness. Personally Rei, Rei II, Rei III, The Passage of Emptiness, Thantos, and the variants following those were my favorites among the soundtracks. They were the most gentle, yet sadistical (The Beast and EVA 00 ahead in that although) and depressing of the entire soundtrack collection. They really broke apart from the rest and captured the emotion perfectly. However the rest of the tracks seemed to be less then these pieces, a lot were generally just too normal or standard.

I'd like for Sagisu to return, however if they can find someone who can produce more of the dark style that these songs captured, I wouldn't mind at all. I also liked how they used songs such as Ode to Joy, Air, and the like. Seems like these great songs don't get the attention they deserve anymore.

I'm also rather interested into seeing if they keep Cruel Angel Thesis or go for a more theatrical song for that.

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Postby Mundane » Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:16 am

Reichu wrote:German death metal.



Is crappy.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:31 pm

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Reichu wrote:German death metal.

Is crappy.

Hey, don't bust on the German death metal -- I listen to Rammstein now and again (assuming they qualify). It would be hilarious if they did a cover of "Asuka Strikes!".
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Postby Mundane » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:57 pm

Yes it would, except Rammstein is Industrial Metal.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:36 pm

What's the difference?
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Postby Mundane » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:39 pm

I could post you some videos, or I can give you a somewhat short explanation, which do you choose?
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Postby jcmoorehead » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:40 pm

Reichu wrote:What's the difference?


Instruments and themes in the songs mostly, Rammsteins content wouldn't really be considered Death Metal. A lot of metal genres are interchangable though, which is good because there's too many of them.

It doesn't really make much difference though.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:12 pm

Passage of Empitness would be a good one to make a varaition of, that piece in particular fit the mood EXCELLENTLY. (okay, the wording of that was weird.)
Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when the films come out.

As far as where I found that source, it was from some site that translated that article, though I can't remember what the link was. I see your point though since lots of things online are made up.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:45 pm

Sailor Star Dust wrote:As far as where I found that source, it was from some site that translated that article, though I can't remember what the link was. I see your point though since lots of things online are made up.

Well, not only that, but human memory isn't always reliable -- it distorts, data shuffles, it draws from other banks to fill in blanks -- and needs to be refreshed occasionally. Hence the importance of having one's sources handy, rather than saying, "I think this article that I don't have the link for said that..."

Just a guiding principle.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:10 am

Found the source! :D
It's from Anime News Service. (I've heard of Anime News Network and Anime on DVD, but I haven't heard of this site before...maybe it's because I don't surf for general anime sites. *shrug*) I wanted to post this info because y'all are probably a better judge than I am on whether or not this info's realible. (Such as for those of you who can read Japanese and/or have the article!) And sadly, even if I'd have the October issue of Newtype Japan, I can't read Kanji for the life of me, soo... *sobs!*
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9-6-06 (6:46PM EDT)—- Confirmed: “Evangelion Shin Gekijou Ban” Details

Apparent scans from the October, 2006 issue of the Japanese edition of Newtype Magazine (not officially due out on shelves until this wekeend) have appeared online, backing up almost word for word the information reported below. Images Copyright (c) Kadokawashoten 2006 / (c) GAINAX - Khara / Project Eva The title for the new film series is “Evangelion Shin Gekijou Ban”, it will consist of 4 parts (First volume, Second part, Latter part and Final story) with the first part arriving in Japanese theaters in early summer, 2007. Staff include General Supervisor: Hideaki Anno, Director: Tsurumaki Kazuya , Character Design: Yoshiyuki Sadamoto, Mecha Design: Ikuto Yamashita, Animation Production: Khara (Color) Studio. The scenario of the 1st part will be written by Hideaki Anno with storyboard by Shinji Higuchi. Key points of an interview in the magazine with Toshimichi Ohtsuki of King Records have also been circulating. According to that information:
-The content is quite different though the time base of the story is the same as the original TV series.
- It will be a remake, however, it is not a re-creation but a “new work”.
- The approach will be different than what Tomino-san did with the Gundam Z New Translation films, there will apparantly be a large amount of new material.
- Even if the TV series has not be seen, the viewer will be able to enjoy it. Though the content becomes easy, it is not redundant to those already familiar with the series.
- The technique that purposely scatters difficult words and phrases will not be used any longer.
- As an antithesis to current animation industry segments, it is an attitude on the production side to pull the act in the age that started from Eva.

9-8-06 (7:22PM EDT)—- Update: Evangelion Shin Gekijou Ban

A few new details regarding the new Eva project, Evangelion Shin Gekijou Ban from the October, 2006 Japanese edition of Newtype Magazine:
- The cover illustration featuring characters Ayanami Rei Nagisa Kaworu is by Shunji Suzuki. Suzuki had worked on the Shin Seiki Evangelion TV series as chief animator and on the End Of Evangelion movie as an animation director. Although not officially connected by name to the new project as yet, his image appearing on the Newtype cover would suggest involvement.
- Images released so far depict Rei Ayanami in observably more provacative and animated moods than before. How will she change? The silent and submissively naturered character with her trademark blue hair and style made her an all time fan favorite of otaku everywhere, catapulting her to the top of the monthly Animage character poll for many, many issues.
- From Toshimichi Ohtsuki’s interview: Just before this new project started up director Hideaki Anno rewatched the entire original television series back to back. Ohtsuki relays that he heard Anno say for the first time: “Eva is interesting, I did not think it was so interesting (laughing).” The comment almost broght Ohtsuki to tears.
- Ohtsuki goes on to say that it is true Eva has become a smash hit animation. However, it’s success caused misunderstanding and disarray has arisen in the animation field because of it. An overproduction of inferrior works was caused.
- Ohtsuki says the Newtype cover image featuring Rei and Kaworu symbolizes the new movie project. Japanese fans have questioned whether this is a hint at Rei And Kaworu’s possibly being at the center of the new story or getting expanded focus in the course of the story of the films.

9-8-06 (7:43PM EDT)—- New Evengelion Movies: Will Original Voice Cast Be Reprised?

With 4 new animated Evangelion movies now confirmed and in production there has been some questioning regarding the Japanese voice casting. All of the main original members of the TV and Movie cast are still living but some have retired or moved away from voice acting work. Megumi Hayashibara (Rei Ayanami) had retired for a period but then returned to seiyuu work. Likewise, Yuko Miyamura (Asuka Langely Sohryu) [url]http://miyamu.info/[/url] is thought to have put some distance between herself and voiceover work. A comment from one of her her last known public appearances can be viewed at her official website at the above link mentioning paid travelling expenses would be a requirement to persue any further vocal work.

Paid travelling expenses?? :? Wonder if that means she lives far away from wherever the hell the voice-acting work was recorded or something. Hmm....
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Postby Reichu » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:13 pm

Sailor Star Dust wrote:Found the source! :D
It's from Anime News Service.

The first part was already posted. I hadn't seen the other two installments; thanks.

I can't read Kanji for the life of me, soo... *sobs!*

That's why you look them up.

- Images released so far depict Rei Ayanami in observably more provacative and animated moods than before. How will she change?

I wonder if this is just overanalysis.

- Ohtsuki goes on to say that it is true Eva has become a smash hit animation. However, it’s success caused misunderstanding and disarray has arisen in the animation field because of it. An overproduction of inferrior works was caused.

"Then, after thinking for a moment, he adds, 'Sadly, several of those inferior works were by, or endorsed by, Gainax itself.'"

- Ohtsuki says the Newtype cover image featuring Rei and Kaworu symbolizes the new movie project. Japanese fans have questioned whether this is a hint at Rei And Kaworu’s possibly being at the center of the new story or getting expanded focus in the course of the story of the films.

More of what's happening in Germany with Kaworu and Seele / Second Branch would be nice. I'm not interested in them fucking around with the storyline a la Sadamoto, just to have Kaworu around at Nerv HQ longer before getting the squish.

More focus on Rei? As a character, I find Rei to be thoroughly unriveting; she feels more like a "mystery" element / plot device than an actual person. But I think there's a lot of untapped potential (billions of years' worth), and if they can take advantage of it without plunging into the RIAO Pitfall, that would be most pleasing indeed.
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Postby cat42 » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:36 pm

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Sailor Star Dust wrote:- Ohtsuki goes on to say that it is true Eva has become a smash hit animation. However, it’s success caused misunderstanding and disarray has arisen in the animation field because of it. An overproduction of inferrior works was caused.

"Then, after thinking for a moment, he adds, 'Sadly, several of those inferior works were by, or endorsed by, Gainax itself.'"


I must say, the first thing that popped into my head when I read this actually was (even though I did enjoy it) Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040.

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Postby MaggotMaster » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:46 pm

Reichu wrote:
- Images released so far depict Rei Ayanami in observably more provacative and animated moods than before. How will she change?

I wonder if this is just overanalysis.


Isn't almost all evangelion fanwank "over analysis"? Not that I don't enjoy debating about things that probably not even Anno knows, sometimes such things CAN cause a retcon or the fixing of a plothole from the authors.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:22 pm

MaggotMaster wrote:Isn't almost all evangelion fanwank "over analysis"?

But this isn't even fanwanking. Some very generic illustrations have been produced in association with a rather vague "scoop". They're saying that Rei is "observably more provacative and animated" -- but, uh, isn't she like that in so many other generic NGE illustrations? I mean, come on. "Wait for something for substantial before you spout that crap, people."
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Postby MaggotMaster » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:24 pm

Reichu wrote:
MaggotMaster wrote:Isn't almost all evangelion fanwank "over analysis"?

But this isn't even fanwanking. Some very generic illustrations have been produced in association with a rather vague "scoop". They're saying that Rei is "observably more provacative and animated" -- but, uh, isn't she like that in so many other generic NGE illustrations? I mean, come on. "Wait for something for substantial before you spout that crap, people."


Yes, I get your point.

It's like saying "ZOMG THAR'S A PICTURE OF Shinji BEING ALL HAPY IN TEH OP THAT MEANS HE'S ACTUALLY REALY HAPPI AND HAS NO PROBLEMS", it doesn't mean anything, it's just a single image.
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Postby Alfonso » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:34 am

Megumi must have retired for a very, very short time then, since she's been doing Jessie in Pokemon for... what, over 7-8 years now, and only took a few weeks break after she had her baby. o_o

Things are starting to hot up, either way. I'm saddening to hear that there will be no longer those scattering of words and such. I loved that, and made Eva unique and had a really cool vibe to it.

Edit: If they do have some more focus on Kaworu, I'm worried on how they'll handle him. Will he be the sweet, calm and mysterious youth from the TV series, or the unintentionally 'evil' Kaworu from the manga? Or something else all together?

Will they tone down the homosexual overtones? :o
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Postby AuthenticM » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:50 am

Hey, I was wondering, will each of these movies have a real movie-big budget like Princess Mononoke or Metropolis? Or will it be like an ordinary TV show but with some extras?
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Alfonso wrote:Will they tone down the homosexual overtones? :o


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