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Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition"). The final instalment made its debut in Japan on March 8, 2021.

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Postby Reichu » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:58 pm

Ayana-Me wrote:I'm hoping that they bring back that double-bladed chainsaw that Kaworu uses to fight Armisael with in the manga. If it has a chainsaw, it's bound to do well in the States.

The appearance in the manga screams of "PRODUCT PLACEMENT LOL".

I love Yamashita and all, but the double chainsaw is just stupid. I'll hope that Alfa came up with the idea and he just drew the thing (kind of like the Fugly Type Armor). If there's any weapon not in the original series that'd be worth seeing, it's the set of swords (Magnarox and Counter Sword), IMO.
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Postby Ayana-Me » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:45 pm

Reichu wrote:The appearance in the manga screams of "PRODUCT PLACEMENT LOL".

I love Yamashita and all, but the double chainsaw is just stupid. I'll hope that Alfa came up with the idea and he just drew the thing (kind of like the Fugly Type Armor). If there's any weapon not in the original series that'd be worth seeing, it's the set of swords (Magnarox and Counter Sword), IMO.


How about a Makita power drill?

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:31 pm

Reichu wrote:snip


First GIRL? Third BOY?

Please jeebus, don't tell me they're going to scrap the use of CHILDREN. >_< I'm too used to that! T_T

Misato=Lieutenant Colonel huh? So if/when she gets the promotion, what would that make her?
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That poster rules, DO WANT, I just wish Asuka-chan could be in it, too. :( I like how Shinji is sitting in the center....ALONE....with no one else..../Symbolism.

....Did Sadamoto draw this?

Perhaps she'll show up in the last minute or so of the film as a bit of a teaser to lead on to the next movie.

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Shinji's "There's nothing I'm worthy of protecting" doesn't sound that odd to me. Yeah, it's going into EoE or even Cloud Strife Advent Children-type terriorty, but with Shin-chan's personality, it makes sense. *shrugs*

...And "rain of blood", huh? *_* Cool. (Yes, watching the violent scenes in 16, 18, 19/20 and EoE horrified and intrigued me at the same time. ^^; )
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Postby THE Hal E. Burton 9000 » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:57 pm

Stardust wrote:Misato=Lieutenant Colonel huh? So if/when she gets the promotion, what would that make her?
<--Knows nothing about miltary stuff and the like.
Um, with the "lieutenant" in there, a promotion would then be to colonel.
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Postby BrikHaus » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:23 pm

Sailor Star Dust wrote:Shinji's "There's nothing I'm worthy of protecting" doesn't sound that odd to me. Yeah, it's going into EoE or even Cloud Strife Advent Children-type terriorty, but with Shin-chan's personality, it makes sense. *shrugs*

That was actually my re-translation. Reichu's original (to which she was referring in her posts) was the awkward version. Not that mine is necessarily right, but it does sound more in tune with the established character. Here it is:

Reichu wrote:Shinji "There's nothing that's worth being protected by me."
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:11 pm

As long as Shinji's messed up and full of self-hatred, I'm a happy man!!

And does anyone think the new character will be another German? Or perhaps American and this time Unit 04 actually gets over to Japan.

Either way, new character I promise is going to be a hottie girl with glasses. They have everything else already (and poor Ritsuko doesn't really count)

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Postby Six Winged Angel » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:00 am

Maybe the new character (on the "episode") will be Kaworu.....I hope it's that
and First Boy?!? tsk...
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Postby slothen » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:07 am

Six Winged Angel wrote:Maybe the new character (on the "episode") will be Kaworu.....I hope it's that
and First Boy?!? tsk...


that would be wetarded. Not because I hate Kaworu, because I do, but merely because he isn't a new character.
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Postby BrikHaus » Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:41 am

Rebuild Poster wrote:僕に守る価値なんてないは

INCORRECT Translation wrote:"There's nothing I'm worthy of protecting."

Reichu wrote:Do you get how "~ ni mamoru kachi nante nai" breaks down? It's the boldened part that got me.

BrikHaus (myself) wrote:Upon further reflection I thought of another possibility. When he begins with "boku ni" he might be saying "for me" and in that case the translation might actually be: "For me, there is nothing worth protecting."

I've gotten confirmation from a friend, who is a native speaker, that my second translation (seen above in the fourth quotation) is the (more or less) correct one for Shinji's statement seen at the top of the Rebuild poster.

She told me that the most accurate English translation would be: "I have nothing worth protecting."

As far as the grammar: boku ni = for me (or rather "I have"), mamoru kachi = worth protecting (there is no good explanation why the words seem to appear in reverse order, that is just the way they are traditionally said), finally: kachi = worth (and not the same as worthy).

I hope this has cleared some things up :D
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Postby cat42 » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:37 am

BrikHaus wrote:...She told me that the most accurate English translation would be: "I have nothing worth protecting."...


Don't worry Shinji, you are (not) alone!
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Postby chiefen » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:19 pm

cat42 wrote:
BrikHaus wrote:...She told me that the most accurate English translation would be: "I have nothing worth protecting."...


Don't worry Shinji, you are (not) alone!


Do worry Shinji, you are (not) alone!
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:54 pm

:lol: Personally, I doubt/hope the new character WON'T be a new Pilot, 'cause that would suck since it doesn't go along with the original. /anal-retentiveness.

Even though there's going to be a "New Machine/New Eva", I don't think it means anybody would pilot it.

And I was going to say something else that wasn't just repeating things I already said, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was. >_<

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Postby Mr. Tines » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:11 pm

Sailor Star Dust wrote:Even though there's going to be a "New Machine/New Eva", I don't think it means anybody would pilot it.


Just hope the new machine doesn't look like this...

Image

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Postby Ornette » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:14 pm

Mr. Tines wrote:
Sailor Star Dust wrote:Even though there's going to be a "New Machine/New Eva", I don't think it means anybody would pilot it.


Just hope the new machine doesn't look like this...

http://www.ravnaandtines.com/eva/uninstall-2.jpg

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I thought the Bokurano mech looked pretty cool /OT

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:14 pm

WTF is that? Image
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Postby Mr. Tines » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:18 pm

Sailor Star Dust wrote:WTF is that? Image


A mecha that is powered by the suffering of children.

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Postby NAveryW » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:11 pm

chiefen wrote:
cat42 wrote:
BrikHaus wrote:...She told me that the most accurate English translation would be: "I have nothing worth protecting."...


Don't worry Shinji, you are (not) alone!


Do worry Shinji, you are (not) alone!

Do(n't) worry Shinji, you are (not) alone!
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Postby Big Panda » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:54 pm

Mr. Tines wrote:A mecha that is powered by the suffering of children.


An EVA?
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Postby Reichu » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:46 pm

BrikHaus wrote:I've gotten confirmation from a friend, who is a native speaker, that my second translation (seen above in the fourth quotation) is the (more or less) correct one for Shinji's statement seen at the top of the Rebuild poster.

She told me that the most accurate English translation would be: "I have nothing worth protecting."

You and your friend rule. Proceeding to revision.

Hey, would your friend be persuaded to ever abet in Evangelion geek-causes...?
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Postby V » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:52 am

My best guess on what the "new machine" is:

we've heard rumor that movie 1 is going to give us more prequel stuff so....

I think we'll just actually see some of the failed Eva prototypes. Which would actually be pretty fun because all we get are some quick shots of DOZENS of creepy "Failed Evas" (the one with 5 eyes, and ones that look pratically like human skulls)

Because my running theory was that they simply were never able to get these other Evas to activate....

....but what if they DID get them to..."turn on"...but they were horrible mutants and uncontrollable....

Anyone ever see "Alien: Resurrection"? That's the mental image I'm going for here (if you haven't; basically they clone Ripley back to life but she's "clone #8" they say, and there's a scene where she finds the lab containing the failed clones 1-7, who are totally messed up freaks in jars (progressively more human) except for #7 who is just a mess and begs to be euthanized)
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